{"id":12807,"date":"2013-03-16T09:00:00","date_gmt":"2013-03-16T16:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/redfindevelop.wpengine.com\/blog\/?p=12807"},"modified":"2020-10-05T13:12:22","modified_gmt":"2020-10-05T20:12:22","slug":"as-seen-on-techcrunch-searching-for-beasts-in-silicon-valleys-war-for-talent","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.redfin.com\/news\/as-seen-on-techcrunch-searching-for-beasts-in-silicon-valleys-war-for-talent\/","title":{"rendered":"Wild, Wild Horses"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-12828 alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/www.redfin.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/tc-techcrunch.png\" alt=\"tc-techcrunch\" width=\"297\" height=\"74\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.redfin.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/tc-techcrunch.png 413w, https:\/\/www.redfin.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/tc-techcrunch-300x75.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 297px) 100vw, 297px\" \/><\/p>\n<h4 style=\"margin-top: -42px; width: 300px;\"><em>This post originally appeared on <a href=\"http:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2013\/03\/16\/bring-out-the-beast\/\">TechCrunch<\/a>\u00a0on March 16, 2013. TechCrunch titled the piece &#8220;Searching For Beasts In Silicon Valley&#8217;s War For Talent.&#8221;<\/em><\/h4>\n<p>At a recent wedding in <a href=\"https:\/\/redfin.com\/city\/17151\/CA\/San-Francisco\">San Francisco<\/a>, a friend who runs engineering for a successful, pre-IPO company started talking about a member of the latest generation of newly minted millionaires. This acquaintance of ours had started one company and then, before that company had ever made money, sold a big stake to a venture investor, only to start another company in the same area.<br \/>\n\u201cHas he even done anything yet?\u201d my friend said and then, looking around, \u201cWhen did that stop being a requirement?\u201d<br \/>\nThis wasn\u2019t jealousy. Silicon Valley has always showered so much money on the deserving and undeserving that it would be hard for any one of us to say which group we ourselves belonged to. But one crucial difference between this boom and the last is that the folks in the last boom had to ship or starve.<br \/>\nToday, not shipping pays pretty well. Five years after Peter Thiel said the simplest predictor of a startup\u2019s success is whether a founding CEO\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2008\/09\/08\/peter-thiel-best-predictor-of-startup-success-is-low-ceo-pay\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">pays herself less than $100,000 &#8211; $125,000 per year<\/a>, the typical founder of a company that hasn\u2019t yet released its first product earns, according to private salary surveys, nearly $200,000 per year.<br \/>\nAnd that\u2019s just the beginning. Until the advent of secondary sales a few years ago at companies like Groupon and Zynga, where key employees get cashed out early by venture capitalists, you had to wait \u2018til your company got bought or went public, because the investors wanted to make sure you didn\u2019t make money before they did.<br \/>\nNow, of course, you can cash out as soon as the startup has made any significant progress. The rationale has been that this relieves pressure on the company to sell out prematurely, giving the early folks enough money to live well while they build their company for long-term greatness. But many just quit. How many startups would be doing better now if all their early people still had to work there for a big payday?<br \/>\nThe broader trend of generally increasing pay, at least for young engineers, has had even more profound consequences on Silicon Valley\u2019s culture. Before most computer science graduates ever walk across a stage to get their diploma, they\u2019re set for life. This is especially true in 2013, which will be the first year in which most companies pay top engineering graduates in Silicon Valley $100,000 or more per year in salary.<br \/>\nFor the companies, for Redfin, the engineers are worth every penny. And for the engineers, the money is nice to have. But how many engineers hired from Stanford or Berkeley in the past year will ever feel the savage need to make something happen, to bust out of the matrix, to push the limits of their abilities?<br \/>\n<figure id=\"attachment_12857\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-12857\" style=\"width: 285px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-12857\" src=\"https:\/\/www.redfin.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/Kitesurfing.jpg\" alt=\"Kitesurfing\" width=\"285\" height=\"213\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.redfin.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/Kitesurfing.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.redfin.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/Kitesurfing-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.redfin.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/Kitesurfing-768x576.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 285px) 100vw, 285px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-12857\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Kite-surfing: the latest hobby of Silicon Valley elite<\/figcaption><\/figure><br \/>\nThe problem is that the young engineers earning that much become well-fed farm animals at the very moment in their lives when they should be running like wild horses. Many now remind me of middle-aged men, collecting expensive scotch or taking up John-Kerry hobbies like kite-surfing and race-car-driving at the age of 24.<br \/>\nWhat changes these folks isn\u2019t just the money. It\u2019s the cosseting, which can permeate the most minute interactions between engineers and their mentors. If you as a manager have spent all day wooing new hires, you aren\u2019t likely to turn around and tell a young engineer on your team how much more she is capable of, even if this is just what she needs to hear.<br \/>\nThis is why Silicon Valley\u2019s War for Talent hasn\u2019t always been good for the talent. After all, the only way to get much better at your craft is to be challenged in ways that make you uncomfortable. Yet not many people in high technology are uncomfortable these days.<br \/>\nThe result for many engineers and product managers is often a case of arrested development, as they drift from one startup to the next, dabbling in several side-projects, without the ballast of having solved some really hard problems or contributed to a lasting business. In the recent laments against the proliferation of amateur-engineers, <a href=\"http:\/\/pandodaily.com\/2013\/01\/03\/why-silicon-valley-innovation-has-stalled\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Ph.D. programs are often cited as the solution<\/a>, but the true training ground for software\u2019s elite has always been a high-performance startup.<br \/>\nWhen I came to Silicon Valley, I came for the boot-camp, I longed to be broken and built back up bigger, better and faster. I earned $32,000 per year in my first job at a San Francisco startup; adjusting for inflation, this is still less than $50,000.<br \/>\nAlmost every day, our head of products gave me the best advice a young person can get: \u201cJust go figure it out.\u201d If I\u2019d told him terrorists had taken over the men\u2019s bathroom, he\u2019d have said the same thing. I took on the challenges he gave me for many reasons, but the inescapable one was that I needed a raise.<br \/>\nOur CEO at the time liked to swing by my desk and say \u201cA chain is only as strong as its weakest link. God help you if you\u2019re that link.\u201d Whenever I wanted to show him one of my projects, he liked to stop me at the threshold of his office to ask, \u201cWait&#8230; Is it sweet?\u201d And then, because it often wasn\u2019t quite sweet enough, I usually turned around right there.<br \/>\nMy first year at that startup was the most harrowing of my life. But it also made me resourceful and tough, which is probably <a href=\"https:\/\/redfin.com\/blog\/2011\/04\/endurance_.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the most underrated quality of an entrepreneur<\/a>. After a life of all A\u2019s for often-mediocre work, it gave me high standards. It was just what I needed when I later co-founded my own company.<br \/>\nNone of that would have happened if my startup had been like lotus land. But now many startups are. The perks offered by profitable, public technology companies such as Google are well known; what\u2019s new in the past few years is the emergence of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.palantir.com\/life-at-palantir\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the private, venture-funded company that offers yoga classes, on-site haircuts, a chiropractor, massages<\/a>, laundry and dry-cleaning, as well as \u201can executive chef who prepares local, organic meals, available for dining at the office or to go.\u201d<br \/>\n<figure id=\"attachment_12835\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-12835\" style=\"width: 284px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-12835\" src=\"https:\/\/www.redfin.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/lunchtime.jpg\" alt=\"lunchtime\" width=\"284\" height=\"209\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.redfin.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/lunchtime.jpg 650w, https:\/\/www.redfin.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/lunchtime-300x221.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 284px) 100vw, 284px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-12835\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Redfin caters lunch<\/figcaption><\/figure><br \/>\nI\u2019ve been asked about the same perks at Redfin. We want the absolute best talent, so of course our pay is competitive; we cater lunches, and <a href=\"https:\/\/redfin.com\/blog\/2010\/02\/the_garage_and_the_penthouse.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">our offices are pretty nice<\/a>. But the problem I have with perks isn\u2019t just the money; it\u2019s the symbolism. After all, when evaluating a Redfin job applicant one of the big questions I\u2019m trying to answer is \u201cwhen did she do something hard?\u201d<br \/>\nIt could be something you put yourself through for fun like running a marathon or far more serious like fighting in a war. It could be the grinding repetition of preparing for a piano recital or the grit required to dig ditches or paint houses for a living. It could be raising a child all by yourself.<br \/>\nMaybe some of these examples sound preposterous to you, but they\u2019re what the rest of America does every day. Looking for candidates who have visited that hard place in themselves at one point in their life isn\u2019t some Marxist fantasy of mine. It\u2019s how capitalism works best.<br \/>\nStartups, like professional football, are best done by the most desperate people on the planet. Products don\u2019t just walk out the door on their own; sooner or later, to ship something amazing, you have to dig deep and bring out your beast. A horse running wild is a rare sight, but it takes your breath away every time.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Silicon Valley has always showered so much money on the deserving and undeserving that it would be hard for any one of us to say which group we ourselves belonged to. But one crucial difference between this boom and the last is that the folks in the last boom had to ship or starve. 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