{"id":455,"date":"2008-05-28T19:27:25","date_gmt":"2008-05-29T02:27:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/redfindevelop.wpengine.com\/blog\/2008\/05\/good_deals_tough_market_17_negotiating_techniques.html"},"modified":"2025-07-01T05:52:25","modified_gmt":"2025-07-01T12:52:25","slug":"good_deals_tough_market_17_negotiating_techniques","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.redfin.com\/news\/good_deals_tough_market_17_negotiating_techniques\/","title":{"rendered":"Getting Good Deals in a Tough Market: 7 Negotiating Techniques"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The two most dreaded words in real estate today must be &#8220;low&#8221; and &#8220;baller.&#8221;<br \/>\nSo publishing a how-to guide for lowballers is a little like hanging a kick-me sign around our neck. We&#8217;re the ones who have to make deals happen, even when our client is convinced a house in Palo Alto is overpriced by 15%.\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/forums.redfin.com\/rf\/board\/message?board.id=Seattle&amp;thread.id=2311\" title=\"Redfin Forums post on how low to offer\"><\/a><br \/>\nYes, we know that especially in outlying areas the market stinks. But so does the seller, who priced his house in the first place. And the likelihood that he&#8217;ll lop another 5% or 10% off his asking price isn&#8217;t just determined by the house&#8217;s &#8220;intrinsic value&#8221; or its &#8220;fundamentals.&#8221;<br \/>\nIt&#8217;s also a matter of the seller&#8217;s state of mind, which can <a href=\"http:\/\/thehousingbubbleblog.com\/?p=4562\" title=\"Housing Bubble Blog post on sellers' perceptions and market reality\">drive him to stick to a high price<\/a>, or to drop an already-fair price. So as brokers, we don&#8217;t just look at the cards on the table but also at the people playing them, searching for &#8220;tells&#8221; that the seller is ready to cut a deal.<br \/>\nNow as part of our <a href=\"https:\/\/redfin.com\/blog\/category\/agent-off-the-record\" title=\"Agent-off-the-Record Blog Posts\">Agent-Off-the-Record series<\/a>, where our agents get together to assemble a greatest-hits list of insider advice on a topic, we&#8217;re outlining what we think are the six major signals and eleven minor signs that a seller is motivated to negotiate.<br \/>\nTo get a significant discount, of say more than five percent from list price, we would typically expect to see at least two major signals or one major signal and two minor signs.<br \/>\nFor example, just because a seller is going through a divorce doesn\u2019t mean he\u2019ll sell his house at a 10% discount. But if the place has also been on the market for a few months, or it&#8217;s in a neighborhood with a big inventory pileup, he might consider it.<br \/>\nSo these signals say nothing about whether a property is fairly priced, only about what the seller is willing to accept now.<br \/>\n<strong>The Seven Major Signals<\/strong><\/p>\n<ol>\n<li><strong>The seller must move<\/strong>: the seller&#8217;s agent occasionally posts a message in the MLS that the seller is motivated. Bingo!<\/li>\n<li><strong>The home&#8217;s previous sale price was much lower<\/strong>: the seller may accept a discount if he can still come out ahead. On the other hand, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.smartmoney.com\/deal-of-the-day\/index.cfm?story=20080520-negotiating-tips&amp;\" title=\"SmartMoney wrote an excellent article on how to negotiate, which began with assessing the seller's situation\">few sellers will accept less than what they owe on the mortgage<\/a>, unless they&#8217;re already in default.<a href=\"https:\/\/www.redfin.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/05\/averagedomblog.jpg\" title=\"San Francisco Real Estate Days on Market\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.redfin.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/05\/averagedomblog.jpg\" alt=\"San Francisco Real Estate Days on Market\" align=\"right\" \/><\/a><\/li>\n<li><strong>The home has been on the market 90 days without a price change<\/strong>: Redfin displays days on market for each listing.<\/li>\n<li><strong>The neighborhood has many homes languishing on the market<\/strong>: use the listing statistics below Redfin&#8217;s map to see if the neighborhood&#8217;s listings average 90+ days on market.<\/li>\n<li><strong>The property is vacant<\/strong>: the seller&#8217;s probably paying two mortgages.<\/li>\n<li><strong>The owners are getting a divorce<\/strong>: look in the property tax records for recent title transfers.<\/li>\n<li><strong>The property is the first or last home in a development<\/strong>: new-home prices are difficult to negotiate, but extras and closing costs aren&#8217;t. Builders are anxious to sell the first home for marketing buzz and the last so they can move on.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><strong>The Ten Minor Signs<\/strong><\/p>\n<ol>\n<li><strong>The home is staged<\/strong>: staging can costs hundreds every week. It increases the listing&#8217;s appeal but also increases the seller&#8217;s motivation to sell. (We argued about this one, as some Redfin agents see it as a sign of strength)<\/li>\n<li><strong>The property has been re-listed<\/strong>: when a property is relisted, Redfin.com resets days on market. But your agent can query the MLS directly for the listing&#8217;s entire history.<\/li>\n<li><strong>The seller is offering special incentives to buyer&#8217;s agents<\/strong>: tell a seller to keep the incentives in lieu of a lower price.<\/li>\n<li><strong>The listing is a short sale<\/strong>: to avert foreclosure, the seller will take almost any price, but <a href=\"https:\/\/redfin.com\/blog\/2008\/04\/short_sales_real_estate.html\" title=\"Redfin short sales blog post\">the trick is getting bank approval prior to foreclosure<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li><strong>A bank is selling a foreclosed property<\/strong>: banks don&#8217;t like owning homes, and are often eager to sell.<\/li>\n<li><strong>The property is an estate sale<\/strong>: relatives may not want to hold out for top dollar.<\/li>\n<li><strong>There are many foreclosures in the area<\/strong>: even if the listing isn&#8217;t a foreclosure, it <a href=\"http:\/\/www.responsiblelending.org\/press\/releases\/subprime-foreclosure-spillover.html\">competes for buyers with nearby foreclosures<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li><strong>The property is the most expensive in the neighborhood<\/strong>: an expensive home built on inexpensive land can easily be overpriced. Sellers value the wine cellar more than you will.<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cache.daylife.com\/imageserve\/09n12Sih1z2nq\/340x.jpg\" alt=\"Richard Parsons\" width=\"109\" align=\"right\" height=\"163\" \/><\/li>\n<li><strong>The property is unique<\/strong>: sellers become emotionally attached to unique properties, which are difficult to price, and difficult to sell. But if the home is one of many in the same development, the seller&#8217;s agent is usually more confident about the asking price. And if the home is part of a new development, the builder will hesitate to set a low precedent for future sales.<\/li>\n<li><strong>A contingent sale fails, or stalls for more than 45 days<\/strong>: after a competing buyer has rejected or delayed a deal because of financing or inspection contingencies, the seller may eagerly accept cash on the barrel, even at a lower price. Use listing alerts to track contingent property sales.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>Our parting advice is to remember what Time-Warner&#8217;s CEO, Richard Parsons, says about any successful negotiation: that both parties have to feel like they won something. But who wants to hear such sage advice when the market&#8217;s going nuts? Tell us what&#8217;s worked for you. Once we&#8217;ve incorporated your suggestions, we&#8217;ll publish a final version to our main site, and link back to here.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The two most dreaded words in real estate today must be &#8220;low&#8221; and &#8220;baller.&#8221; So publishing a how-to guide for lowballers is a little like hanging a kick-me sign around our neck. 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