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Redfin CEO Glenn Kelman published this article on\u00a0Linkedin<\/a>\u00a0on Sept. 8, 2017.<\/em><\/p>\n

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We never thought it could happen to us. When\u00a0Boeing announced in 2009 the opening of a new plant in South Carolina instead of Seattle<\/a>, manufacturing was heading out of Seattle, but technology companies were flooding in: Google opened its first engineering office in 2004, followed by Facebook in 2010, Apple and Dropbox in 2014, Uber in 2015, and Airbnb in 2016.
\nIn the past twelve months alone, Facebook announced plans to\u00a0double the size of its Seattle<\/a>\u00a0presence, Google\u00a0broke ground on a massive new Seattle campus<\/a>\u00a0in Amazon\u2019s South Lake Union neighborhood, and Apple\u00a0expanded its Seattle office as a hub for artificial intelligence<\/a>. But now Amazon has decided to open a second headquarters, hiring 50,000 people outside of Seattle.<\/p>\n

It\u2019s the Cost of Living, Stupid<\/b><\/h3>\n

Amazon\u2019s departure isn\u2019t, as some have speculated, about Seattle\u2019s taxes. We don’t really have any. And other tech giants\u2019 plans to expand in Seattle in lieu of San Francisco is really part of the same trend. All of these companies are expanding into new cities for a variety of reasons, but a big one has been to follow the talent to a lower cost of living. This\u00a0began with folks leaving\u00a0San Francisco for Seattle years ago<\/a>, and now some in Seattle are leaving for places like Portland, Denver and Nashville.<\/p>\n

It should come as no surprise that the real estate markets that are growing the fastest are the ones where people can afford to buy a home. There are three Seattle-area listings for $500,000, each a steal by San Francisco standards, each likely to sell within days of their debut.
\nHere is one example:<\/p>\n

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Here is a $500,000 listing in Nashville:<\/span><\/p>\n

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Both homes are lovely, and the one in Seattle is in a great location and amazingly affordable for the area, but there are, on a per-capita basis, twice as many homes for sale under $500,000 in Nashville as in Seattle. When more people can afford to live in Nashville, more people will over time live in Nashville.<\/p>\n

Why Even Amazon Can\u2019t Afford Seattle Anymore<\/strong><\/h3>\n

An obscure shift in how technology companies account for profits will accelerate this migration to the center of the country. It sounds small, but it will change the face of a dozen American cities. In May 2016,\u00a0Amazon and Facebook announced that stock-based compensation would be fully accounted for<\/a>\u00a0in all their reports on profits, for all of their businesses.\u00a0Google followed suit this January<\/a>. A month ago, Redfin was one of the first technology IPO in memory to take this approach from the start.<\/p>\n

An Obscure Accounting Rule Changes Everything<\/strong><\/h3>\n

For years, investors looked the other way when tech companies paid an engineer a few hundred thousand dollars in salary, and a few million dollars in stock. Companies would still report their earnings in the time-honored way, including the cost of the stock paid to employees, but would focus investors on a metric of their own invention, \u201cadjusted EBITDA,\u201d which didn\u2019t count the stock. That, everyone agreed, was the real measure of a company\u2019s profits.<\/p>\n

Except it wasn\u2019t. If you\u2019re thinking that it makes no sense that a software engineer would immediately recognize the value of getting a million dollars in stock when a Wall Street investor didn\u2019t, you\u2019re right. It never made any sense. But that is exactly what happened.<\/p>\n

Every Bubble is Fueled by Funny Money<\/strong><\/h3>\n

And of course, this stock was the only way most employees could afford to live in a town like San Francisco or, increasingly, Seattle. Funny money has always been the reason housing prices have risen too fast. First, it was liar loans and negative-amortizing mortgages, where the total amount you owed increased rather than decreased every month.<\/p>\n

We all know how that ended, with the global financial crisis of 2008. And now, with the unicorn bubble slowly deflating, investors have begun to insist that even the highest-flying tech companies keep track of all their expenses, including the stock paid to employees.<\/p>\n

At Every Tech Company, Two Conversations at the Same Time<\/strong><\/h3>\n

The result has been dramatic, even panicky. Every high-growth technology company is now having two conversations at the same time: marathon meetings of a board\u2019s compensation committees about how to rein in stock-based compensation. And a rush to find the next Pittsburgh or Austin for hiring employees at lower wages. The first stop in this journey is often Quicken Loans, which is now hosting four daily group tours for Silicon Valley executives to see a vast empire of Detroit-based software engineers.<\/p>\n

The Wrath of Grapes<\/strong><\/h3>\n

Most of the tech CEOs I know used to think that moving to the Midwest or the South was beneath us, a good tactic for the Boeings of the world who don\u2019t need the kind of rare skills we depend on, who have to grub for profits when we reach for growth. But if Amazon can\u2019t afford to keep growing in Seattle, who can? Silicon Valley will finally replicate itself, not haltingly or hesitantly, but headlong, with the same fervor that once brought the Okies out west. As the mayor of Oklahoma City recently said, \u201cIt\u2019s like the Wrath of Grapes<\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n

The Depolarization of America<\/strong><\/h3>\n

The result will be, I hope, the depolarization of America. What employing thousands of people in the middle of the country has taught me is how good and hard-working Americans in all cities are, and how much most of the country resents our wealthiest cities\u2019 sense of entitlement and condescension. In an age of freeways and airplanes, of cloud-computing, virtual meetings and Github, it was impossible that such differences in wealth and politics could remain so stark over such small distances for so long.<\/p>\n

Amazon will turn a red state a bit blue, and that state will turn Amazon a bit red. The riches of Seattle will come to a new town, bringing with it a few problems, but many more wonders. Nothing could be better for America.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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